A cow used for milk can life past 15 years. If it is raised for meat it is slaughtered at 12 to 20 months of age. That is a huge difference. If you chose products from free range animals as often as possible I would seriously disagree about there being no difference for the animal between animals raised for meat rather than milk and eggs.

Bittman can only have had his head in the clouds for the past 17 years, implying these stats on “livestock” production are something new and just came to his attention in some recent NY Times article. Jeremy Rifkin gave us these stats in “Beyond Beef”, published in 1992, and countless books and documentaries have substantiated and updated the figures since.

Mark Bittman isn’t arguing against vegetarianism. He’s just saying it’s “not much better” than omnivorism. Whether or not this is true, we can set aside. But the fact is that Bittman himself isn’t strong-willed enough to act in accordance with his convictions–in other words, becoming a vegan. He is a “vegan until 6.”

I admire the work Bittman does, but if everyone was a “vegan until 6,” and then indulged on steak and ribs for dinner, we’d still be eating way too much meat.

This is fucking sad, he obviously knows he should stop eating meat, but he’s too much of a selfish bastard or pussy to do so…

There really is no debate, yet meat lovers defend their point with their claws ready. They’re afraid because the comanies profiting on the killing of animals made them afraid.

Mark Bittman is such an intelligent man. I would”t say he is arguing against vegetarianism though. And to all the people hating on him for eating meat you obviously missed what he was saying.

and just for the record im vegan so don’t flame me saying im defending factory farming

I don’t see why he can’t advocate veganism on account of being hypocritical, it doesn’t matter what he does, it’s not going to change whether being vegan is good or not. It’s like saying Hitler would be in the wrong if he started advocating race equality. Who cares what the actions are of the advocator, race equality is good, advocate it!

just because he doesn’t advocate vegetarianism doesn’t mean he is arguing against it. whoever titled this video is completely missing the point.

I could not agree more! Great posting.

Vegetarians and Vegans shouldnt hate Mark for eating meat, he just doesnt understand the measure of suffering people cause just to provide unnecessary meat.

Mark could do no better than learn from the writings of the master of literature Leo Tolstoy who certainly condemned the eating meat of meat by a genuinely ethically minded person.

When humans cause violence to animals we are sure reap it ourselves, we dont deserve anything less, as Pythagoras said.

Do no harm (from Jainism)