You are not getting my point. There are few existing centarians that consume an animal based diet. They consume a diet consisting of more plant foods than animal foods. In many cases, most of the animal protein comes from fish, which is easier to digest. The island you mentioned, having the highest amount of centarians, consume a plant-based diet with a small amount of lean meats. In addition, many centarians stay fit and avoid supplements by using natural remedies like green tea and olive oil

>1. The Okinawans consume 25% the amount of sugar compared to the Western Diet.

You actually commented that it’s sugar cane is one of the worst foods you can eat. Are you retracting that, now that I pointed out a group of people that live very long lives actually consume it on a very regular basis?

>2.The Okinawans also stress a whole food, complex carb, plant-based diet with a small amount of lean meats for animal protein.

They drink milk, too. Another food on your list of worst foods.

>”2. Okinawa sugarcane is much more natural than our method of producing sugarcane and in moderation it is okay. Agave nectar and maple syrup is still the best source for sugar.”

You subscribe to naturalistic fallacies that have no basis in fact. Not only does maple syrup have a relatively high carbon footprint, it’s absolutely not any better for you than sucrose, HFCS, or honey. Maple syrup is a combination of sucrose, fructose, and glucose.

>Read Sugar Blues- educate yourself

Don’t just read what confirms beliefs you may already have. Read about how starches and sugars are digested and metabolized in our bodies, and compare it with the myths that circulate. Question your own beliefs and fact check them. For example; could you tell me exactly why you think maple syrup is better for us than regular sugar? I don’t mean parroting something like “it’s just natural”.

aredditor,

– RE: “I’m trying to get you to understand that one couldn’t get by without being malnourished if they weren’t eating meat pre modern technology.”

I’m trying to get you to recognize the absurdity of that argument. In SOME areas, it would be very hard to get the necessary nutrients. And in the middle of the Sahara desert, it’s still difficult. On the moon it’s impossible. That doesn’t change the fact that meat is unhealthy for humans. It beats starvation, but so does frog slime.

aredditor,

– RE: “I’m trying to get you to understand that one couldn’t get by without being malnourished…”

What you’re doing is looking back to a time when man may have inhabited places which didn’t provide proper nutrients. He managed by killing and eating animals, just as plane-crash survivors have managed by eating their dead fellow-travelers. That doesn’t make cannibalism an appropriate tradition to continue. Meat is unhealthy for humans, for the animals and for the environment.

You don’t need to be lecturing me on my beliefs. My beliefs are proven facts. This entire lecture of yours is your failed method of putting down this very insightful book without reading it- typical…

Oh boy.. we have a “scientist” here. There is one thing that science underestimates. That is the laws of mother nature. Maple syrup and agave nectar both, made absolutely PERFECTLY from nature, have low glycemic levels..FYI. Sugar from the typical sugarcane does not because it is chlorinated and processed. You can’t fuck with nature bud, and the corn industry is learning that the hard way. HFCS is the worst thing you could put in your mouth for a sweetener besides Splenda or Aspertame.

>”Maple syrup and agave nectar both, made absolutely PERFECTLY from nature, have low glycemic levels..FYI.”

If you feel the glycemic index of maple syrup indicates it’s healthy for you, and a higher one isn’t, then you should not consume brown rice, potatoes, millet, oats, whole wheat. All have a higher glycemic index than maple sugar. One of the arguments against HFCS is that it has more fructose. Well that’s why maple sugar has a lower gycemic index. It has more fructose.

>”What you’re doing is looking back to a time when man may have inhabited places which didn’t provide proper nutrients.”

You are a product of tens of thousands of years of evolution, not the past 500. Pick a spot on the planet, and you’d have an area with a much more limited amount of plant foods available. Europeans not only didn’t have foods like tomato, potato, most beans, corn, squash, most citrus, peanuts, pineapple, most citrus, and more, they didn’t have canning, or long term freezing.

>”ROFL…Now you are just pulling stuff out of your ass. They drink LITTLE or NO MILK..just FYI. The consume soy”

Are you REALLY rolling on the floor laughing? Grow up.Start looking up names of famous Okinawa centenarians and google their name with the word milk. Also, Yukichi Chuganji (not Okinawa) lived to 114 drinking deadly milk every day. Antonio Todde lived to be 112 eating deadly pork and lamb every day.

You’re starting to use the OK in moderation line. I like it.

Is man vegetarian or meat eater?

Neither and both at the same time. We are omnivores.

Yes, we’re technically, all the product of evolution all the way back to the first successful form of life. And if we look to the results embodied in homosapien, we find a digestive system with mechanisms consistent with digestion of plant material, and inconsistent with digestion of animal-based foods. If we eat animal-based foods anyway, our health declines. Did we evolved to have a digestive system inconsistent with what we eat, or do we eat a diet inconsistent with our digestive system?

For real… quit being such a drama queen with the LOL phrases.

“Start looking up names of famous Okinawa centenarians and google their name with the word milk”

you are going against your own religion. Doing such an action is no different from googling Plato and vegetarian…hmm

You can name three exceptional people while I can name you the hundreds affected by animal products and refined foods..Just look at osceoporosis levels for christ sake.

I never said moderation was bad. Animal foods may contain potentially dangerous macronutrients, but if kept at safe and small levels it is okay, even regarding milk products and HFCS If I dare say.

I try and stick with red, blue, or sweet potatoes, as white potatoes are not much different than white pasta, white rice, etc. all the latter having high glycemic levels. Whole wheat does not have a high glycemic level, FYI. I don’t consume brown rice too often.

HFCS= unnatural. Enough said

In the Bible the first animals and humans were vegans. Animals had their plants and humans had their seed bearing plants available. Then came sin and genetic corruption. Man had to sacrifice animals to take the place of HIS life for his sins. Then man ate the animal. Man was set up to either be able to eat a vegan OR an omnivorous diet because God knew before hand man would sin and hence started out vegan but wound up omnivorous.

Daniel was a vegetarian, too. So really, its your choice.

Perhaps your diabetic, but if you’re not, you don’t have to be anal about watching your intake of foods with a high glycemic index. Go ahead and be vegan or vegetarian, it can be done today thanks to modern technology, but preaching in an effort to get people from eating meat because they feel weird about death and suffering of animals is understandable, but it’s nature. Even a vegetarian can’t cultivate plants on a large scale without resorting to killing animals.

>”HFCS= unnatural. Enough said”

It’s a simple fact that your body can’t tell any difference what the source of the sugars you eat are. Maple syrup is very expensive because it takes a huge amount of land, and a huge amount of energy to get a small amount of it. It’s certainly delicious (hey, it’s sugar) but it’s a luxury, and it’s hardly environmentally friendly. It’s also very high in fructose, which a lot of HFCS detractors argue is responsible for disease (BS).

>”Doing such an action is no different from googling Plato and vegetarian…hmm”

Wow, that’s retarded. Basically you’re suggesting we have as much valid information for 2500 years ago as we do for contemporary history.

>”You can name three exceptional people”

I could clutter youtube comments with contradictions to your theories about what supposedly the worst foods are for our health. You fail at diet advice, and you fail at science. I mean really, agave and maple syrup? BTW; osTeoporosis

LOL….your funny bro.

I may be vegan (and not diabetic) but the animals have little to do why I made that choice. It was all for the health, and there is no argument that plants are much healthier and more beneficial for your health. Animals are only eaten for personal pleasures, which is acceptable, but you need to understand that animals contain little macronutrient value, and all their small micronutrient values are found in plants in rather high doses.

I am sure you could clutter my advice with biased information, as anyone has that capability. If I fail at diet advice, why am I in such exceptional shape and GOOD HEALTH LMAO. What shape are you in?

Osceoporosis is mainly caused by two things
1. high intake of acidic foods- animal protein, salty foods, and refined foods

2. not getting enough vit C (because the Western diet focuses too much on animals and not enough on vit C rich plants)

“It’s also very high in fructose, which a lot of HFCS detractors argue is responsible for disease (BS). ”

I agree. Fructose is the main sugar in fruits.

The studies do not lie however. HFCS is bad for the body. First of all the extract it from yellow corn, also known as mutant grass since it is not naturally made. Then they add tons of refinements. YOU CANT **** WITH NATURE. nature gave us natural sweeteners for a reason. Agave nectar is actually beneficial for your health. HFCS is not.